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Spouting Thomas's avatar

Good piece, Aaron. There's actually an interesting synthesis here with Turchin's theories of elite overproduction triggering the emergence of "anti-elites", i.e. elites that revolt against their fellow elites in pursuit of a piece of the too-small pie. The appearance of a parallel Christian elite system in the Roman Dominate would seem to be just such an example.

From your piece:

"But in the mid-300s, the next generation of elites - that is, the children of the existing Roman elites - began to question the bargain. Watts doesn’t go into detail, but his book is suggestive that the rewards began to look less appealing or attainable to the young."

As I understand it, the (Western) Roman economy initially recovered strongly amidst the stability that accompanied the end of the Crisis of the Third Century, but in the second half of the fourth century it began to stall and sputter, for reasons that aren't entirely clear. Perhaps something was just broken in the Roman system that couldn't be repaired?

Although the Crisis of the Third Century killed some elites, it didn't involve a mass bloodletting of elites, at least in the West. The excess deaths fell more on the commoners/slaves, which means it didn't really undo the elite overproduction that had been ongoing through the Principate, and in Turchin's framing, elite overproduction was therefore very quickly a problem again for the Dominate.

Along those lines, here's an interesting paper:

https://escholarship.org/uc/item/5j8740dz

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Alex Petkas's avatar

Great piece.

Watts is a former mentor/colleague and a good friend - I taught at UCSD with him for a few years.

His book "City and School in late antique Athens and Alexandria" is also excellent on the sociology of knowledge institutions in the Roman empire. 

Everyone serious in the classical education movement should read it.

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