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Two comments: 1) It is interesting and telling in my mind that Mr. al-Gharbi came from a military family. The US military has been and continues to be a great leveler where for the most part competence outweighs political correctness. He didn't say that, but my suspicion is that his upbringing in this kind of home was very influential in his thinking.

2) His conclusion that really nothing is different than the past seems to contradict the three worlds model where we are now this is anti-Christian environment. Isn't that a great influence on the woke world and how does that play out?

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Yes, I think his background shaped him.

When it comes to the past, I don't think he was specifically talking about religions, just the nature of these awakenings.

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I understand that, but it appears to me that in an anti-Chrisitan culture - particularly in at the elite level - the divisiveness driven by the woke agenda is fueled by an atheist mindset that if you are correct will not go away as he suggested.

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I greatly enjoyed this interview with Musa al-Gharbi. I thought his description of the zero-sum competition among the elites for prestige was very revealing.

I would have liked to ask him if the the periodic re-emergence of awokening periods (e.g., 1930's, late 1960s/early 1970s, late 1980s/early 1990s) reflects similar sociological end-goals. Stated differently, is each subsequent awokening a reincarnation of the previous one? It would seem that this is the case, at least with respect to the feminist underpinning of these awokenings. Indeed the membership of the current awokening is dominated by women.

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I couldn't decide whether you were praising or criticizing elite women. Much of what you wrote appeared as dispassionate documentary. But a dispassionate reading reveals the cultural contradictions of elite women. The woke men are not really woke, they are, crudely put, pussy-whipped.

There is no wisdom in wokism. There is not even intellect in it. There is a lot of anger, even violence--a lot of which is coming back to bite the practitioners in the part of their anatomy they are trying to protect (from what, the do not know.)

In your final paragraph you finally shed some light on the woke state of affairs. Careless deliberation about dishonest facts, dogmatic ideologues as opposed to reasonable, and insulated from the consequences of their activity. But they are not as insulated as they think. They no longer can experience love, caring, and protection. Their economic victories are pyric at best. Doomed to seek love in all the wrong places, including in abhorrent same-sex relationships and other LBGTQ++++. Such deviance cannot produce satisfaction, of anything but deviant desires. Wokism is a return to the dark ages or worse.

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