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Bnonn Tennant's avatar

I think the appeal of Orthodoxy is superficial, meaning that it attracts people who make decisions more intuitively, rather than people who make them analytically through deep study. I also think it's unstable, in that it involves a wholesale rejection of one's existing worldview and religious culture, for an entirely new one. These kinds of decisions tend not to go well in the long run.

I am much more interested in a reformational and integrationalist approach. I believe there are many valid insights in Orthodoxy, but I don't think they are essentially Orthodox—they can be learned from Orthodoxy, and from other places, but because they are true, they can be integrated into a true, exegetically-derived Reformed theology. That is the focus of most of my own theological effort at the moment. At the risk of being a shill, I would guess many readers of this thread would be interested, so I'll share the link below.

The major problem with Orthodoxy is simply that it's wrong on major theological points, and demonstrably so; the exegetical case couldn't be clearer. The major problem with Reformed evangelicalism is that it has spent the past several hundred years progressively distilling piety down to justification, and has adopted a deistic view of the world where movement has nothing to do with spirit, and form has nothing to do with meaning. Reformed theology is much more worth keeping than Orthodoxy, so why not simply start adding back the elements we lost during and after the Reformation?

Btw, I'm not naive about the complexity of this. For instance, just yesterday I got some good challenges from an orthobro on X about the tension between the two-tiered, direct Reformed soteriology and a fractal/hierarchical/indirect understanding of creation in toto. But I think orthobros are heavily overconfident themselves. They staunchly reject the Filoque, for instance, which scuttles a truly symbolic understanding of women as the imagers of the Holy Spirit. So...swings and roundabouts eh.

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Alex Petkas's avatar

As a "cradle" Orthodox for almost 4 decades, I've seen people join Eastern Orthodoxy through many different waves of enthusiasm. I'm married to a former protestant and I've spent some time around that tradition.

I agree with some observations made in comments below on vocal enthusiasm outstripping actual experience. (Ex-) Protestants especially seem inclined to this temptation, to become intellectually interested/obsessed by Orthodoxy even while only tenuously connected to a physical church, if at all.

This is unfortunate, because as someone who explores a lot of weird and potentially anti-Christian ideas and sentiments in my work, I find the regular rhythm of liturgy, prayers, and physical relationships very anchoring. I have Orthodox friends all over the country, and we can easily pick up where we left off after many years, using a common spiritual frame of reference. Orthodoxy accommodates well that ancient mode of religion, where a fervent youth can go astray and be merely a nominal Christian for a number of years, then find reenchantment and devotion later in life, a new meaning to the same old songs and prayers shared by the community. Other denominations have some of this "repeat content;" Orthodoxy has by far the highest proportion and greatest quantity. That sense of mystery and enchantment require multiple layers of meaning that can only be fully appreciated after many repetitions over a long period of time. In other words, strong symbols held dear far beyond the point where reason might have attempted to jettison them.

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