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"Francis is the bête noire of American trad Catholics. I am not Catholic myself and I certainly have my differences with Francis on a range of topics. But Francis seems to be theologically orthodox. And he also has some trenchant critiques of conservative religion that both Catholic and non-Catholic traditionalists would do well to consider."

There's a lot to unpack here, but briefly:

*Pope Francis is seen by many as someone who hates the American Catholic Church, writ large. That includes me, and I am not a Trad. It involves far more than the Trads. He has an allergy to much of the past--to the point of despising it--which is a destructive posture for a Church one of whose chief claims is the strength of tradition over conformity to the eternally changing enthusiasms of the world.

*In many parishes where it was more widely allowed to flourish, Trad communities were the only ones not only with growing membership but *young* growing membership and young families. (There are a few stragglers out there but if he continues as pope for long enough, it's widely thought he'll extinguish those).

*While theologicaly orthodox in some important ways, he's made a lot of wink-and-nod statements that are walked back by his staff (not him), and wink-and-nod appointments that are not.

*He completely reversed a couple millenia of what we were taught to be unalterable doctrine concerning capital punishment. That is not the sort of thing we were led to believe "development of doctine" meant.

This isn't on-point regarding tradition, but it's shamefully easy to make a case that he's protective of prominent sex-abusing Catholic clerics provided they support him. But I mention it because it definitley colors how many of us view him, outside of that calamity.

That being said, there's much to admire in your view that "Religious conservatives need to draw on the past without living in it," I think that's well-put. Where to draw those lines is always the question. For one thing I'm not an integralist, if for no other reason of having lived through the decades-long disaster of Catholic clerical coverup of sexual abuse.

That being said,

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Great article, Aaron. This was a hard read, but as much as I want to move on from the pontificate of Pope Francis, there is some truth to rigid traditionalism claims outside of his usual context. As I've engaged with Traditional Latin Catholics online it seems sometimes traditionalism gets in the way more than it helps on what seemingly is becoming more frequent when listening to traditional Catholic content. In fact, I am genuinely worried that most would gladly put any ecumenical efforts with the Orthodox that were made in the past 500+ years to the dustbin almost immediately just by going of their inability to not remind the Eastern Catholics and Orthodox that they're better than them. People can trash Vatican II as being modernist, but it effectively saved the liturgies and "traditional rites" in the Eastern Catholic circles that was continuously become more Latinized, and not in the TLM way. It also healed some rifts with the Greeks, albeit not perfectly.

In regards to the now dirty word "pastoral", it did at one point have a place and when genuinely understood and used in good faith by priests there is a place for it. Trads can in cases have a tendency to tell the alcoholic to, "just stop drinking." We've been bludgeoned and made cynical by the woke and the liberals entrenched in our faith so much that we can't differentiate from someone who has no interest in learning or aligning with our faith, and someone genuinely struggling. Compassion was weaponized against us, and we're going to have to learn to feel it again without feeling like someone is manipulating us.

In regards to governance, Christendom isn't coming back anytime soon, Constantinople isn't returning to us, and we're not retaking the Holy Land. Though I do hope for a converted and convicted America one day.

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