I enjoyed this podcast. Certainly men have a need to relax, blow-off steam, and really enjoy themselves, even with activities that might be a bit frivolous. The caveat is moderation, as Aaron pointed out. Tip #3 in Dr. Arnold Beckman's tips for a successful life was "Everything in moderation, including moderation itself."
"The Beer Hall Putsch" and the environment surrounding it is another example of anarcho-tyranny from about a century ago, but in the opposite direction. In Weimar Germany they were throwing the book at socialists, communists, and anyone on the Left, while turning a blind eye to crimes from the Right. When Hitler and his buddies staged the Beer Hall Putsch in an attempt to overthrow the government they got a slap on the wrist (even though several people actually died in the Putsch). The US in 2024 is not Weimar Germany, but that one example makes it seem like anarcho-tyranny can actually succeed at empowering the political wing that is favored by it.
Yes. It's interesting how often the popular histories skip over how outrageous the Beer Hall Putsch was, and how light the punishment. I don't think I appreciated this for a long time. Hitler probably should have been hanged at least twice over. Instead he served 9 months of a 5-year sentence.
This goes back to the idea of institutional alignment -- Weimar Germany was institutionally rightist, just as the US is institutionally leftist. While American democracy is undoubtedly much stronger than Weimar democracy, our immune system is much weaker against attacks from the left than from the right.
Not that rightist. Cardinal-Archbishop Von Faulhaber described Weimar as a haven of perjury and treason against the German empire. To the right of communism but I wouldn’t say institutionally rightist (in contrast to say the UK at the time). Don’t forget that the communists actually set up a Soviet in Bavaria (where Hitler was a delegate(!)) and the Red Fighter Brigade was active, so at the time many strange bedfellows were being made because of legitimate fear of the communists. Shows the danger of thinking the enemy of your enemy is actually your friend, he might just be planning to eat you next.
All due respect to the Cardinal-Archbishop but the facts don't really align with that notion. The Bavarian Soviet was extirpated by the time the Weimar Republic was put into place, as were the Spartacists, and the German Communist party never got more than 15 or 16% of the vote.
That having been said, your conclusion is spot on, and I refer to it as the Kerensky fallacy: "No enemies to my side of the political spectrum." (The original quote was "No enemies to the left", and Kerensky said it in regards to Lenin. He and Russia paid dearly for that mistake.)
I suppose to me, especially when looking across time and space, it makes the most sense to think of left and right as coalitions, or proto-coalitions. They are not complete philosophies or value systems in and of themselves. They are a description of the political territory.
Hitler held the conservatives and reactionaries of his time in contempt. He was pursuing a project that he thought was grander, more revolutionary, more scientific than anything their small minds could imagine. But they didn't return the contempt. They had their qualms but ultimately saw him as one of their own. And so they treated him with kid gloves throughout his various treasons. And importantly, they had the power to make sure he escaped punishment.
And German institutions were rightist enough that he was able to easily seize control of the machinery of government and make it operate according to his desires. Big business, universities, etc. were generally controlled by conservative nationalists that were sympathetic enough towards the Nazis that they didn't drag their feet in response to Nazi policy. This would not be the response in the US. This is what we mean by their leftist alignment.
We could say there are probably a lot of important ideological differences between Alvin Bragg's DA office and your average Antifa protestor who shows up to engage in street battles with the Proud Boys. If Antifa were in charge, maybe they would line Bragg up against the wall and shoot him. Maybe they would retire him to a minor sinecure. Who knows? But Bragg and his office are *aligned* with Antifa.
Well it’s complex. They certainly didn’t see Hitler as one of their own; more an upstart little weasel they hoped they could control. The Junkers were basically hands off as long as the military could be rebuilt. Also a lot of the “cooperation” was done at gunpoint; the Nazis were gangsters and I don’t meant that metaphorically. If Heinrich Pfeifer is to be believed and I think he is, a lot of the reich ran along protection racket lines, even at the major corporation level. They were “supported” the same way Little Italy supported the Mafia. It was more like an abusive marriage especially as the Nazis progressed with internment camps and open assassination; they started with this on their political enemies first (by no means just communists) before moving on to the Jews, etc.
That being said I do take your meaning. I do stand by the point though that Hitler and the Nazis were never right wing in any meaningful sense. Not theologically, socially, economically, or even culturally. For guys that talked about the master race a lot they included a lot of real misfits and weirdos at the top.
But to your broader point it kind of already has. Jan 6ers go walkabout in the capital and have spent years in jail without seeing a judge. BLM burns down cities across America and everyone in power was basically fine with it.
All that law and order voting in california means nothing since dems still win majority of posts. Who cares if the soros da is gone. Still run by the likes of that gangster, pelosi. It's all fake from both politicians and supporters since that bitch took the knee all those years ago.
I enjoyed this podcast. Certainly men have a need to relax, blow-off steam, and really enjoy themselves, even with activities that might be a bit frivolous. The caveat is moderation, as Aaron pointed out. Tip #3 in Dr. Arnold Beckman's tips for a successful life was "Everything in moderation, including moderation itself."
"The Beer Hall Putsch" and the environment surrounding it is another example of anarcho-tyranny from about a century ago, but in the opposite direction. In Weimar Germany they were throwing the book at socialists, communists, and anyone on the Left, while turning a blind eye to crimes from the Right. When Hitler and his buddies staged the Beer Hall Putsch in an attempt to overthrow the government they got a slap on the wrist (even though several people actually died in the Putsch). The US in 2024 is not Weimar Germany, but that one example makes it seem like anarcho-tyranny can actually succeed at empowering the political wing that is favored by it.
Yes. It's interesting how often the popular histories skip over how outrageous the Beer Hall Putsch was, and how light the punishment. I don't think I appreciated this for a long time. Hitler probably should have been hanged at least twice over. Instead he served 9 months of a 5-year sentence.
This goes back to the idea of institutional alignment -- Weimar Germany was institutionally rightist, just as the US is institutionally leftist. While American democracy is undoubtedly much stronger than Weimar democracy, our immune system is much weaker against attacks from the left than from the right.
Not that rightist. Cardinal-Archbishop Von Faulhaber described Weimar as a haven of perjury and treason against the German empire. To the right of communism but I wouldn’t say institutionally rightist (in contrast to say the UK at the time). Don’t forget that the communists actually set up a Soviet in Bavaria (where Hitler was a delegate(!)) and the Red Fighter Brigade was active, so at the time many strange bedfellows were being made because of legitimate fear of the communists. Shows the danger of thinking the enemy of your enemy is actually your friend, he might just be planning to eat you next.
All due respect to the Cardinal-Archbishop but the facts don't really align with that notion. The Bavarian Soviet was extirpated by the time the Weimar Republic was put into place, as were the Spartacists, and the German Communist party never got more than 15 or 16% of the vote.
That having been said, your conclusion is spot on, and I refer to it as the Kerensky fallacy: "No enemies to my side of the political spectrum." (The original quote was "No enemies to the left", and Kerensky said it in regards to Lenin. He and Russia paid dearly for that mistake.)
I suppose to me, especially when looking across time and space, it makes the most sense to think of left and right as coalitions, or proto-coalitions. They are not complete philosophies or value systems in and of themselves. They are a description of the political territory.
Hitler held the conservatives and reactionaries of his time in contempt. He was pursuing a project that he thought was grander, more revolutionary, more scientific than anything their small minds could imagine. But they didn't return the contempt. They had their qualms but ultimately saw him as one of their own. And so they treated him with kid gloves throughout his various treasons. And importantly, they had the power to make sure he escaped punishment.
And German institutions were rightist enough that he was able to easily seize control of the machinery of government and make it operate according to his desires. Big business, universities, etc. were generally controlled by conservative nationalists that were sympathetic enough towards the Nazis that they didn't drag their feet in response to Nazi policy. This would not be the response in the US. This is what we mean by their leftist alignment.
We could say there are probably a lot of important ideological differences between Alvin Bragg's DA office and your average Antifa protestor who shows up to engage in street battles with the Proud Boys. If Antifa were in charge, maybe they would line Bragg up against the wall and shoot him. Maybe they would retire him to a minor sinecure. Who knows? But Bragg and his office are *aligned* with Antifa.
Well it’s complex. They certainly didn’t see Hitler as one of their own; more an upstart little weasel they hoped they could control. The Junkers were basically hands off as long as the military could be rebuilt. Also a lot of the “cooperation” was done at gunpoint; the Nazis were gangsters and I don’t meant that metaphorically. If Heinrich Pfeifer is to be believed and I think he is, a lot of the reich ran along protection racket lines, even at the major corporation level. They were “supported” the same way Little Italy supported the Mafia. It was more like an abusive marriage especially as the Nazis progressed with internment camps and open assassination; they started with this on their political enemies first (by no means just communists) before moving on to the Jews, etc.
That being said I do take your meaning. I do stand by the point though that Hitler and the Nazis were never right wing in any meaningful sense. Not theologically, socially, economically, or even culturally. For guys that talked about the master race a lot they included a lot of real misfits and weirdos at the top.
The “Right”.
But to your broader point it kind of already has. Jan 6ers go walkabout in the capital and have spent years in jail without seeing a judge. BLM burns down cities across America and everyone in power was basically fine with it.
All that law and order voting in california means nothing since dems still win majority of posts. Who cares if the soros da is gone. Still run by the likes of that gangster, pelosi. It's all fake from both politicians and supporters since that bitch took the knee all those years ago.